Dear professor Von Glasersfeld,
I am a student studying developmental
psychology. I am very interested in
structuralism, especially its relation to what we call
'explanation', and I
read Piaget's books "Le structuralisme". As I
understand Piaget explaining
turns out to be structuring in transformational
patterns and his Genetic Epistemology
is such a structure itself, and containing several
structures.
In one of your replies -
december 2002 - you say
"Structuralism" contains
the statement that "the cognitive organism would
construct a stable world
for itself, even if the 'real' world were in continuous
flux."
I do not know to which passage you refer
or if there is any. Piaget writes
on p.19: "car si les points d'arrivee etaient
constamment modifies par les
chemins parcourus il n'y aurait plus d'espace mais un
flux perpetuel comparable au fleuve
d'Heraclite".
So he seems to say, rather, there would
be no construction of (pre-)operations
we would call space, but a construction of
(pre-)operations we perhaps
would call 'un flux perpetual'.
I doubt Piaget ever wrote about a/the
'real' world other than the
descriptions of contemporary science. So, did you interpret
Piaget correctly
(consistently)? Or, can one make a consistent deduction from
Piaget's theory
to a non-relation to a 'real' world as you seem to be doing in
the statement
above. 'Real world' isn't an explanatory concept (and a
fortiory not a structure), or is it?
To be straightforward, I am having
doubts about Radical Constructivism
(RC) because it's engaging itself again
and again in discussions on
non-explanatory concepts like 'real' world and having opinions
about these.
I don't see a connection for
explantory-construct and non-explanatory
constructs exclude oneanother. So what is there to talk
about; isn't it a
sterile discussion? Or is RC itself a non-explanatory
extension of Piaget's
explanatory theory?
If you do think, however, 'real' world
is an explanatory concept, I would
invite you to explain why.
I hope you are willing to reply,
allthough my questions are based on
your answer to another question.
Yours sincerely,
Jenny McDermot
Wellington
New Zealand
Dear Ms. McDermot,
Let me begin by saying that I believe
there are several ways to interpret
Piaget. He worked and published for seventy years and
being a highly productive, original
thinker older ideas sometimes had to be modified by
the creation of new ones. In his
writings there are places where he sounds
like a
realist and others where he sounds like an idealist. I believe
he was neither. I took as the basis for
my interpretation the things I
understood him to say after he had
replaced the developmental notion of stages with
that of progressive conceptual
equilibration.
Concerning the passage I mentioned in
the December 2002 answer, here is the
original:
Ce qui reste alors est la construction
elle-même et l'on
ne voit pas
pourquoi il serait déraisonnable de
penser que la nature dernière du
réel est
d'être en construction
permanente au lieu de consister en une
accumulation de
structures toutes faites. Le structuralisme, (1970),
p.57-58
Nearly all my books were destroyed in a
fire last April and I therefore cannot
look up the passage you quote (I fortunately had nearly all
quotations I used on a separate
disk!). It is not clear to me what the «points
d'arrivée»
are and what kind of space is beeing referred to.
As I see it, I have never used a
«real» world as
an explanatory concept. I
have said that I don't deny an
ultimate reality - because it makes no
sense to deny something of which one
cannot have any knowledge. I agree with
what Hans Vaihinger (The Philosophy of
As If) ascribed to Kant, namely that «Reality»
is a heuristic fiction. This makes sense because for the
practical purposes of social
interaction and mutual compatibility it is far simpler
to assume an interpersonal
«reality»
of permanent objects and stable
relations than to operate continuously
with the conception of relative adaptation,
i.e., the conception that I adapt to my interpretation
of you, and you to
your interpretation of me.
I'd like to
continue this discussion, but you will have to give me
some examples of
«explanatory concepts» as
opposed to non-explanatory ones. I am
not clear as to how you make that distinction.
Best wishes,
Ernst von Glasersfeld