From: "Finn Po" sdeese@efn.org
Subject: Pre-natal invariance conservation
Hello Dr. von Glasersfield,
Firstly, thank you very much for offering your time and mind to querriers like me. I
am happy to have found a psychologist who talks some autopoeitics. My interest is pre-natal psychology and I enjoy
pondering interuterine 'self-making" (I call it matricing at this stage) in cognitive terms. Do you know of
anything being done by Autopoietisists or Radical Constructivist in this area and have you done anything directly
related to pre-natal psychology?
I do have a question that I will try to express. It may be likely that in the
interuterine matricing of "self" the unenervated placenta is very active in "othering" the self
that is powerfully informed by the fetal nervous system. Where would I look for placental structural responses that
I think are required for invariance conservation against a continuously developing fetal nervous system.
Any direction will be useful to me.
Dear Mr. Deese (?),
I am sorry to say that I have never worked on or experimented with anyone's
interuterine experiences and of course have forgotten those I might have had myself. On the other hand, I have often
risked the statement that the sytematization and coordination of sensory signals must begin quite some time before
we are born. I cannot imagine what the "placental structural responses" might be of which you speak; but I
would say that a fetus can certainly construct elementary invariances on the basis of perceived movements,
vibrations and sounds. Some of these invariances might well serve as prototypes in the organization of postnatal
experiences. The womb may not provide much of a view, but it surely offers many occasions for isolating and coming
to terms with movements, jolts, and spatial constraints. With the help of the various scanning devices that have
become a commonplace today, it should not be difficult to make some empirical studies in that direction, but I do
not know of anyone making such investigations of preliminary sensorimotor coordinations.
I am sorry that I cannot answer more helpfully to your question.
Sincerely,
Ernst von Glasersfeld.